Welcome to the Curated Confidence, the space where beauty meets truth and confidence isn't just talked about, it's built. And no, not with a filter. I'm English Black, PA, med spa owner, aesthetic coach, and a woman who has walked through fire to stand in her power. If you're here, chances are you're not just chasing a glow up. You're craving a life that feels unapologetically your own. This podcast is about what it really takes to own your story, embody your worth, and express your beauty from the inside out. Not for perfection, not for applause, but because you're done abandoning yourself for everyone else. Each week, I'll bring you real talk, mindset shifts, and the kind of unapologetic truths that help you curate confidence, not just in the mirror, but in how you move through the world. You ready? Let's get into it. All right, welcome back to The Curated Confidence. Today, I am so excited to welcome Kindra Morse to our podcast. Kindra is the powerhouse behind the Her Purpose podcast, where she amplifies the voices and stories of women stepping into their purpose and power. With over a decade of experience in the network marketing industry, Inside of a network that generated over $100 million, Kindra knows firsthand what it takes to build influence, grow a brand, and create financial freedom. Now she's turned that expertise into coaching, helping women expand their brand and presence both in and outside of network marketing so they can generate more revenue, more impact, and ultimately more freedom in their lives. Kindra's not only passionate about business growth, but also about women, uncovering their deeper purpose, and aligning success with meaning, which you know I love. I cannot wait for you to hear her insights on empowerment, confidence, and the courage to build something bigger I'm so happy to have you here. It's so exciting, my first non-injector guest. So this is great to talk, to switch up the content a little bit, talk about purpose and all things gal Yeah, yeah, same. I know it helps having that sense of purpose helps when everything feels unsteady. You know, the world, all your problems feel lighter because you still have that mission at hand that gives your life meaning Mm hmm. We're all meant to be making progress in our lives and making impact and creating a difference in the world. And anytime that we're going through life, not doing that, there's a part of us that knows we're not living up to our potential. We're not living our Isn't that true? I mean, just going through the motions and that, that is like one of my personal missions is to make sure that when I'm laying on my deathbed, I'm not looking back and saying, God, I feel like I just went through the motions. Where did it all go? You know? So, well, your whole brand is about helping women step into the boldest versions of themselves. What was your own pivot moment when you You know, I have been in the industry of network marketing for over a decade, but for the last, I don't know, maybe a couple of years even, I felt this pull to step into a higher level of impact because there's a lot of women that I've served over the years in this industry But I felt this calling that I could serve women in multiple industries or areas of business because if you're doing something that's truly tied to your purpose, you will make an impact in the world. If you're doing something that's just because this is what I've accepted as normal, like being a job or a business that fell into your lap or something that became something more than you expected, it's not going to have the same meaning as something that's tied to life experiences that you've had, things you've overcome. And we all have a deeper purpose that has so much more to do with maybe the darkest moment that we've ever experienced. So looking at all of the women that were around me that I knew were made for more, that were holding themselves back from stepping into what they were called to do because of fear, limiting beliefs, doubts, the stories that we tell ourselves that we're not qualified, or maybe we're not good enough, or we don't have enough experience, or talent, or money, or whatever. I just saw so many women that I know were meant to make a bigger difference in the world than they were currently making. And it really was me. It was, I know I'm meant to make a bigger difference. And so I had a pivot moment, your question, It was something that was on my heart for a long time, but the pivot moment was when someone had shared with me the recognition that her business and network marketing wasn't her own. She'd shared, it was actually, it was a podcast. I can't remember. I think it was hers. I think we were guests on hers. And she had shared that she had this moment of realizing she'd built this massive business. She'd created all the success, but she didn't own it. And it was one of those things where you, you hear it and you can never unhear it. And I actually didn't even, I didn't even want to accept it in the moment. I was like, that's not true. I own my business. What are you even talking about? And then as time passed, I realized, no, you're right. I don't own any aspect of my business. I really don't have any control over product changes, pricing, marketing, the way, obviously you can change, you can control the way you market, but the way the company as a whole is marketed, things like that. And I just couldn't ever unhear it. And so it was, that was the pivotal moment that pushed me into, I know I'm meant for more and it's Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I love how you mentioned a lot of the times that darkest moment is plays such a big role and where we find that sense of purpose, because it's the lessons that we've learned from that, that we can then impart on other women, or men, if you're Absolutely. Our life stories, the things that we go through, they are not for nothing. And the, is it the 12th step? Or that maybe I don't, I'm not super familiar. AA is lending a hand to the next person. And that's what solidifies transformation. Yeah, for sure. And it's so much, life is just richer when we have that sense of purpose, because then we're, again, we're not just going through the motions. If we don't have goals, then how do we know where we're going? And that had never really hit for me, I guess, getting past, for me, PA school, and maybe for you, creating the success with your network marketing, you know, well, what's past that, you know? And it's not that we need milestones, like we're on a treadmill, but what is it that is going what is it that lights us up that helps get us excited every day right so you talk a lot about identity shifts can you share a time that you had to let go of an old identity to I, so a couple of things I actually just shared about this on my social media today. I created so much success in my network marketing company that I received a lot of accolades and admiration and out of boys, essentially from everyone around me. I was constantly being told at 30 years old, I hit at the top rank in the company. And I had people every day telling me, you're so inspiring. You're so amazing. You're so incredible. And I worked really hard, I built a phenomenal network. And there was a time because of things going on in my personal life that I stepped back and didn't, I wasn't aggressively building that business, but I was maintaining, which is super common in the industry. I think everyone goes through phases of being in the trenches and more passively not being in the trenches. Essentially, as the voices of the outside world faded, telling me how great I was. I didn't even realize it until very recently, my self-confidence actually plummeted. And I didn't even fully understand or grasp what was happening. But looking back, I can tell that I know I tied so much of my identity to what the outside world said I was. And when the outside world stopped telling me who I was, I stopped knowing who I was. And the post I'd shared today was, I had to have this moment of deciding, I'm going to build my identity from the inside out. I'm going to decide who I am. I'm not going to be dependent on the outside world telling me that I'm amazing. And I'm not that that's really what I tell myself, but I had to build my self-confidence back brick by brick, decision by decision, moment by moment without the outside world telling me any of those things. And I know Gary V talks about this. He says in social media, if the comments that you see, the positive comments, if you allow them to fill you up, that's what will cause you to let the negative comments also tear you down. And it really is the same with confidence and your identity. If your identity is rooted in the positive you get from the outside world, then your identity can be taken away from you. And also, it's dependent on whether or not you continue to receive those, but it can also be torn down by the negative in the outside world. So when you have negative comments, you have negativity coming at you, telling you what you can or cannot do, all of those things, you take all of the power away from the outside world when you build your identity It's so true that all of what you just said reminds me of, have you read Worthy by Jamie Kern Lima? I have No, I've listened to an interview of her. She developed the makeup brand. IT Cosmetics, yeah. Yes, I have seen a little bit of her story and she has a I know, the three of us could probably sit down and swap very colorful stories about growing up, but she said kind of the same thing. She's like, you can't have confidence if you don't have self-worth because confidence comes from outside. And, you know, and I think there's a lot of overlap personally between confidence and self-worth, but the self-worth is what we have on the inside. That's us believing in us. That's us believing that God put us here for a reason and that we were made perfect. And we're here to, you know, serve him perfect just as we are. And that the confidence comes from the external world. And when we're only relying on that external validation, we can Mm hmm. And something that's super interesting that I haven't talked a lot about, but I, because of things going on in my personal life, I had stepped back. One of the beautiful things about the network marketing industry is you can create so much residual income. I don't think people, people need to say this a lot more. you can be making a lot of money every week and still be miserable and unfulfilled. And also there was a season where because I had pulled back and I was really focusing on other areas of my life that I needed to focus on, I felt I didn't deserve the money. It's so weird. I felt that I remember the season where I was receiving so much money every week, but I felt terrible receiving it because I did not feel like I was out in the world actually earning that in the present moment. And yes, I had put in the work to create that. That's the reason so many people love the business model, but it was this weird dynamic of, I don't feel I'm worthy of receiving Oh, and I mean, boy, we could really go on about that, about just women in general being willing to receive because we're such givers and such nurturers. We're used to doing everything for everybody else. And I don't know where, you know, on the West Coast, in the South, you know, women take care of everybody else. And it's I think culturally, the The message that I got, at least, was that it's kind of admirable to sacrifice yourself for the betterment of everyone around you. And that, again, leaves you feeling not so great. And it's like the oxygen mask analogy on the airplane. You know, we can't give to others unless we're willing to give to ourselves. But feeling empty That and I also think that when you've grown up in chaos and love was in some way or another intermittent. There's an aspect of us that overperforms because it makes us feel like we'll be more safe and that we will be less likely to lose love from That's exactly right. And I kind of lost train of my thought there if you couldn't tell, but a lot of the times when you grow up in the way that you just described, it takes a lot of work to get yourself to become the person that can receive. We all want these wonderful things in our lives. And when you're a good person, when you work on having morals and values and all that, you're like, well, I know I'm worthy. But there's a part of you that doesn't believe it. There's like a lot of inside work to prep yourself to be the person that can receive. And that can actually feel uncomfortable when all we've known is giving, or performing, or doing, because that was how, you know, that was just an old version of us, how we got validation. Well, a lot of women listening probably feel that tension of, I know that I'm meant for more, but I'm not sure what it looks like. Where do you usually start with someone I actually really do believe that what you are meant to do, you know what it is and it's right under your nose and you try to push it away. You try to reject it because you're afraid of who you have to become to create that reality. But at the end of the day, for me, it was there all along. It's never been something that I didn't know what it was. It's, it's, it's there. There's a whisper. There's God wings along the way that tell you this, this is the path for you. But I think deep down, we all know what yeah for sure um well and i mean and that that can be evolving too that can change because all these different life phases and that can be a little confusing because it's like well gosh i i thought this was it and then i've i've changed and i thought this was this i worked with a group on the west coast actually And I love what one of the guys in our group said. There's some statistic that if economics were not an issue, that people would change careers roughly every 10 years. Isn't that interesting? And it makes sense. I mean, our interests change. Our ages change. The decades are very different. And boy, there's a huge shift in I know, I know. And that's the great thing about life is that we can Well, you help women find clarity around this. What's one misconception people I think clarity is not so much not understanding what our calling is, but it's not believing in the process, not having the confidence to go through all the steps you need to go through to bring something to fruition. And that's where the coaching is. So I love coaching because business coaching especially, you get to be a mirror for the person that has this vision, but needs someone to mirror back. Yes, you're on the right path. Yes, this is going to work. This is the right steps in the right order. I think we all think that it's not clarity, but it's confusion over what really matters in any given moment. estimate what we should be accomplishing in a short amount of time, and we underestimate what we can accomplish in a long amount of time, because we think we're supposed to be doing everything all at once. And really dialing in what is the one thing that you need to be focusing on right now in this season of your business or your future, that's really what a business coach does, is It's true, it's true. And staying in that lane of how to move forward, not ruminating around all the things that might be wrong or complaining. I mean, that's just like, that's always a dead-end street, right? When you're discussing all of that, how can you help someone tell the difference between what they truly desire, what Hmm, that's a good question. The outside world is always telling us what we're supposed to want, right? I think that asking yourself the question, what do I want and what do I need in any given moment, if you practice that question, those two questions in every area of life, where do you want to go to dinner? How do you want to spend the weekend? What do you want to invest in next? Like all of these types of decisions, if we practice asking ourselves, what do I want? What do I need? And then also, Um, do I want to do this or do I feel obligated to do this? Is this something that someone else makes me feel like I should be doing or is this something that I truly have a desire to do? And no one can answer those questions for anyone else. You can only, you can answer those questions for yourselves. Um, but really Yeah, how do you, this is just a little off the cuff, but how do you recommend people do that? Do you encourage journaling, meditation? Meditation, I freaking love, but it's the micro muscle of building self-trust by asking yourself that question in those small decisions. It can be literally as simple as the laundry when you have mutual chores with a spouse. Do I want to do like, let's just say as an example, my husband's laundry, am I doing it because I want to do it for him or am I doing that because I feel like he expects me to do that. And when we do things because we feel like someone else expects us to do it, then you have this little moment or feeling of resentment that builds. And the only way that you can combat building that in your life is by making those choices because you want to, not because you're obligated. And here's the thing. There's never any one way or the other that it has to be, but it's you deciding that every single thing that you do is what you're, you're doing it because you want to, not because you're obligated. It's not even the, the, the answer changes. I love doing my husband's laundry, but every single time I do it, I do it because I know I want to do it. I don't, I'm not doing it because I feel obligated. And as you make those little decisions in your daily life, like the laundry and the dishes and the this and that, it's like a muscle, it grows. And then when you look at doing things in business and in life that are bigger, you trust yourself because you know, you yeah yeah well that's that's a great that was very thoughtful and you know i will piggyback on to the doing the husband's laundry because i'm like you know what question i asked my husband i'm like does this feel helpful to you is this is this an act that you actually value and you know what for my husband the answer was no so That's an important question. That is such a good question. Yeah, I don't want to do things for you if they're not going to fill your love bucket. And yeah, we have different ways of feeling loved knowing that your partner's love language is different than yours. That's right. Really Isn't that the truth? Isn't that the truth? Well, confidence is something that so many women struggle with, even when they're outwardly successful. I mean, as we've just elaborated on extensively, where do you see women unintentionally sabotaging You touched on this a little bit ago, but it's essentially putting everyone else first. When you make your micro-commitments to yourself and you keep your word to yourself and you honor yourself, you honor your commitments to yourself, that's where true, for me, deep, meaningful self-confidence comes from. And it can be little things like exercise every single time that I don't get a workout in because I prioritize everyone else around me. I take, I tear down a piece of my own self-confidence because I tell myself consciously or subconsciously that I'm not important enough to keep my words to myself. And how do we show up powerfully in Yeah, yeah, it's true. And kind of, again, going back to, we kind of touched on this earlier, but using that external validation as the crutch for confidence when really it's how we show up for ourselves when no one else is around. And I love the exercise example because I think that's such an important component to mental health. and to just getting peace. I mean, we're humans, and the reality is humans, we're animals, and we need to move, you know? But whatever that self-care feels like, whether it's movement, a nutritious meal, enough sleep, all those things, I mean, and that seems like survival, but to your point, showing up for ourselves, saying, I'm going to do it this way, because this is what I need. Yeah, I agree. That's where... Not Yeah. So if they feel like, if someone feels like confidence is something they just don't have, how No one just has it naturally. Every single person that you see that shows up with tons of confidence, they built it again, brick by brick. It did not come overnight. They showed up scared. They kept their word to themselves. They stayed focused on their mission. They did the inner work. No one has it naturally. And I think that's a misconception in the world is that, oh, I'm just not naturally confident. Well, I'm not naturally physically And it's a continued thing. It's like showering. You have to I want to say I appreciate that analogy because it's using exercise as the analogy is great and it's accurate, but not everybody resonates with that. Some people are like, I don't, it's not for me, but showering we can all sign up for. We are all down to come out of the house clean most days of the week. But that's true too. It's just such a, it's gotta be a daily habit. And it's so interesting how our internal voice just gets to be this default. And it really, it's something that we have to be intentional about shifting, right? If you're left to your own devices, your mind is thinking negative thoughts 80% or more of the time. It's true. It's intentional rewiring of what you're believing inside your internal beliefs, the subconscious beliefs that you have, the stories that you've told yourself, the identity that you have. There's so much of our identity that is tied to stories that other people created for us. or stories that we created based on experiences that we've had in our life, especially childhood. And recognizing that everything that we've been through, there's 50% is what happened and 50% the story we made it mean. Like, what did we make that experience mean about us and the world around us? And decoupling those two things and understanding that we have control over Oh, yeah. And isn't it so interesting? I mean, everybody feels like their story is so unique. And it is, in the nuance of it. And, you know, in transparency, I grew up in a household with a lot of addiction. And in going to Al-Anon meetings, which is for family members of addicts, you see the stories all start to sound the same and you're like, oh my gosh, I'm not so unique. It's not just me, you know? And then that just takes, that lifts the curtains, right? It lifts the veil. I'm feeling like you're kind of in the shadow of a story that you did your best to interpret what's happened in your life. But then you find out from other people, oh, it's not even all that unique and it's so standard. This is actually just how people respond to this type of circumstance, you know? And then, that makes it even easier to assign it a new story. I just found that out by happenstance. But I love how you talk about just looking inside without even having that outside influence to say, does Mm hmm. I heard something earlier today, actually, about responsibility. And I've heard this. It just I heard it in a different way today. And this is why it's so important to always be putting positive into your mind. But I've heard this lots of times in the past, and it didn't click until today. I've always associated a responsibility because we've all been through traumatic things in one way or another, whether you decide no one else can determine that your experiences were traumatic. So anyone that relates to that, we all are the same. But you hear that you have to be radically responsible to move past it. And a lot of times responsibility is blame and fault. And so it's really easy to hear, oh, if I'm responsible, that means that what they did to me when I was a child means it was my fault. And radical responsibility is not blame. Blame and fault. It's having a hundred percent control over how you respond. Response. Yep. Yes. Respond to the world today because we go through these things in life. We experience things that we never should have experienced. Yes. It was wrong. What they did was wrong. They hurt you. They misunderstood you. They abandoned you, whatever it was, but you are the one that is continuing to abandon yourself. If you continue to let that, whatever happened when you were 12 or 10 or Yeah. Have you read the book The Courage to be Disliked? No, it's not the easiest read. It's written, it's a Japanese author. And so I love it actually. And that is very, I don't cultured, I guess is the right way to say it, but, but they go over a lot of that in a really articulate way, which I think is so interesting. And actually I was on a different coaching call this afternoon where we were talking about how we assign, you know, if we assign that it was traumatic and, And I think that there's a line there because we don't want to be dismissive. We don't want to say, well, this has no meaning. It doesn't mean this wasn't hard or tough or anything like that. It just means that we don't have to live there, right? Yeah, exactly. So many of your clients are in business. And what shifts when a woman begins showing up in our business from a place of purpose instead of Oh my gosh, I'm so over the hustle culture. And I am so embarrassed to say that there was a time that I pushed it as a leader and mentor, because that's what created success for me I created a lot of success in my life through hustle. And will you, can you create success through hustle? Absolutely. You will most likely sacrifice the things that matter most to you. If you do that, the loved ones time that you'll never get back. I teach now that I don't want you to sacrifice moments with your kids and your family and bedtime stories and meals together, all of those things. We should never be sacrificing those things for the sake of business. Um, and I think that, there's a belief shift that has to happen. Is it actually possible for me to create success without hustle? And that's where a lot of my clients don't have, it's an and or, it's one or the other. Either I can create success or I can have family time. And so shifting and rewiring what we actually This is not the truth. It's so true. We have to come from that place of abundance because when we're coming from a place of lack, a place of scarcity, we tend to stay there, you know. Well, you talk about getting paid for your purpose. For someone listening who feels guilty or unsure about monetizing Oh my gosh, there's two separate questions in that. So if we feel guilty about monetizing, there's something tied to our sense of self-worth that says we don't deserve the money. And I actually just did a training in my in my program on healing our relationship with money because as much as we have a relationship with our intimate partners there's there's an aspect of life that we have a relationship with money and we're either pushing it away we can i actually covered this concept of if you looked at your relationship with money compared it to the attachment styles of fearful avoidance, dismissive avoidance, secure attachment, or anxious preoccupied. Like anxious preoccupied is checking your bank account 50 times a day. Checking your bank account to see is the money here? Is the money there? How much do I have? How much is left? Fearful avoidance is I'm not worthy. I'm not worthy of money. I'm not sure that I deserve to have money. Dismissive avoidance is I never want to have money because having money means something bad. So I'm not even going to acknowledge money. I'm actually going to pretend like it doesn't even exist. and then securely attached is having this really confident, secure relationship with money as it comes and as it goes. And it's interesting, I think there was, oh, as far as your purpose, the second aspect of what I heard in your question is, It's really easy to think like, why should I get paid for something that feels meaningful? But if you get into the marketplace and you start having conversations with people, you start putting out content around what is meaningful to you and what you feel you're called to share the things that you've learned through the experiences that you've had. In those conversations, you'll find the ways that people need to know what you know. There's things that you know and things that you've been through. And it's only through really diving into the conversations that you can have with people that have been through the same thing that are maybe five steps behind you or two steps behind you. really seeing, oh my gosh, I can help you. I can walk you through this because I've been there and I know you just need to take these three steps. You just need to implement these three things in your life or five things. And we should all be compensated for the impact that we create in the world. If it's meaningful, if you think about, and I know you've heard this exercise, but if you think about, All the things you've been through. Yeah. You know? Yeah, I know where you're going. Every resource, every book, every conversation. If you pulled it out of you, how much would you pay? All the things you've learned to get them back, yeah. You would pay so much to have it back. So why should you hold that from the Yeah, it's true. There's so much stuff wrapped up in that. And you know, if we don't believe we deserve to have it, then that makes it really tough to do that. But we, I mean, I love to have this conversation because, you know, a lot of times we're talking about God and Jesus and making money and the guilt around that. It's like, well, you can live like Jesus. And, you know, he was, he wandered, he was homeless, he stayed with random people, you know, people took him in. And that would be the ultimate letting go of your wealth. He found his wealth in his gift. But the quote-unquote money was in the gospel that he shared. But I'm like, but most of us today are not going to live that way. And we are not Jesus. We're not, you know, we have to have shelter. We have to have these things. So are you saying you don't deserve a home? Are you saying you don't deserve to have food? Because And the Bible talks so much about that too, about working each week. to have the things that you need. And the other side of wealth creation is that wealth creation, I've never had that belief that that is bad. I've always, I've never struggled with that being a bad thing. But when you, wealth is, or money is just a magnifier of who you are. So if you are good, if you're innately good, then money is, allows you to show up in the world as more, and a good version of what it means to live this life. You can bless other people, you can create more impact in the world, you can give back, and you can't do those things if you can't give to yourself. If you're bad, if you're internally ugly, if you are jealous, if you are struggling with all of the things that people associate, they think it's money that makes people those things, but people were those things before they got money. Money just Well, and it's like saying that guns kill people, but it's actually people holding guns that kill people. And it's just like saying you can be a great person or not a great person and money, again, it's just more of what you do with it, right? So, well, if someone's listening right now and feels unclear, underconfident, or just stuck, what's one small thing they could do today Oh, that's a good question. I think that again, I really do believe that you know what your purpose is. And it's not that you're I think the thing that we think is going to happen that we're going to get there overnight. And if you can identify, you know where you want to go, but how can I show up in the world as the better version of myself today? How can I create a small ripple effect in the world? And Cher may be part of my story. I think the thing about purpose, I love it. It's in my podcast title, Her Purpose. it's something that cannot be even defined. We can't define what purpose is. For a lot of women, purpose is being a mother. For a lot of women, it's being a wife. And a lot of times we think that who we are is in these roles we play. And purpose Is all aspects of who you are. It's who are you in work? Who are you in relationship to others? Who are you in relationship to yourself? Who are you in your hobbies? Who are you in your church or your community? It's It's how do you show up in the world and how do you make an impact in the world? So again, you probably know what it is. How do you show up as the 10.0 version of you in one way today and this week and this month and another way next month, but your No, no. You know what I love to do is, you know, for ChatGPT to work for you, you have to, for anyone who's not familiar, you have to give it a lot of information about yourself. You have to talk to it, tell it about your past or how you think, ask it questions about circumstances that you have so that it kind of gets to know you. And one of my favorite things to do is to get ChatGPT to give me prompts to journal. I mean, and if you don't, if you hate journaling, I tell you, I used to hate it myself, but it has really been a game changer for me in a lot of great ways. But getting those prompts and journaling or, or even I just, I actually just did that today. asking, Chad Chibuti asked me several deep, meaningful questions about this specific topic so that I could better understand what it is to me. So you could do that with purpose. And I wanna go back and just share if it's okay, a little story. Because this is such a big part of my purpose, but there's memories that you're carrying, there's experiences that you went through that you've never forgotten. And I remember an experience where I was sitting in an auditorium at an event and there was a woman on stage and she was sharing about how she had because her and her spouse was unsupportive she'd been hiding in her closet to build her business because she didn't want him to see her doing it but she created massive success and at this point he's on stage with her. And her message was that, you know, hide it if you have to, but it's worth it. And I remember at the time I was, I had a really unsupportive spouse and I was sitting in the audience and I remember feeling like I want to be her. And it wasn't ever, I want to do what she's doing and be on stage as a successful leader in this industry. The feeling that she's giving me right now, the courage that she's giving me to step into what I feel like I really want to do but I'm not doing it because someone else doesn't like it and this person doesn't is making fun of it and this person doesn't have the same vision as me. She's filling me with courage because she went first. And I want to give that to others. I want to live my life in such a way that other people feel the courage to do it, even though the world around them is telling them that it's silly or dumb or not possible or whatever. And that's where your purpose lies, is where did something happen in your life that you'll just never forget the way it made you feel? You're meant to do that for others. Oh, I totally agree. And that can be kind of painful. That can be a hard thing to face for some people, you know. It sounds very straightforward and in ways it is. And at the same time, to acknowledge that can be a bit of a challenge, you know. Oh, it can be so hard. Yeah. I think for some women, have you heard of the VIA character test? It's a researcher, it's a well-known PhD. The research is character strength. So if you are completely clueless, if you have yet in your life to give yourself any credit for your gifts, for what you are good at, because somewhere along the lines you were told you couldn't, you can go to VIACharacterTest, just Google it. And it might be VIACharacterStrength.com, it's something like that. you can go on there and take an assessment, and it will rank your character strengths. And it will tell you your top five, and then at the bottom, those are I know. I know. Because everybody always tells us, you know, focus on your strengths. Well, how can you do that if you don't know what they are? You know, we all know what we're not good at. Usually. Usually. Right. Well, what would you say that you personally rely on to stay aligned and confident in your own journey? Because we Oh my gosh. This is actually something that is really unfolding in my life a lot more presently than I probably would like to admit. I have very recently learned we all carry these stories, like you say, right? And until you really uncover what is the shadow goal in your life, what are the things that are driving that are you think are the outside world stopping you, but really, it's your inside internal stories that are stopping you. And one for me was the fear of being misunderstood. And I had no idea that I had been It's just controlled so much of my life. And I knew that it was important to me. It was hard for me to be misunderstood. That was a painful thing, like daggers in my heart if you misunderstood me, but I didn't realize how much it was impacting everything about the way I show up, how I show up in my business, how I show up in life, how I show up in relationships. Yeah, like really and really understanding that when you talk about alignment, I want to impart that alignment is something that you find within yourself and you can have whatever life you want to have no matter what the outside world does. No one else needs to change for you to win in life, but it takes you being in alignment with you and you being your own best. cheerleader and hero and giving yourself what you maybe didn't get when you needed it most. And that's the lesson I think I keep learning. The world will continue to show you where, through people and places and circumstances where you're not free. And that has shown up in my life. And I, it's like, I took a long time, I guess, to learn the lesson, but realizing that I understand me and that's all I need. I need to understand me. And as long as I understand me and I know my intentions, I'm safe, I'm at peace. And that's It's so true. That is what alignment is. And I love everything you just said. It's really, there's not a whole lot to follow up on. It's hard to top it. Well, Kindra, thank you so much for joining me today and sharing not just your story, but your wisdom and your heart for empowering women. The work that you're doing through her purpose and your coaching is proof of what's possible when people step into their gifts and refuse to play small. Yes, thank you for having me. No small plans. Yeah, so for everyone listening, if you felt inspired by this conversation, and I know you did, go connect with Kindra, follow her journey, tune into her podcast, Her Purpose, and where Instagram's at Kindra Marie Morse, Kindra with an I. Marie, M-A-R-I-E, and Morse is M-O-R-S-E, like Morse Code. Okay, well explore her coaching if you're ready to expand your influence and revenue in a way that is aligned with who you are. And thanks so much for listening. Thanks, Kindra. Have a great day. Wait, wait, before you go, thank you so much for joining me on the Curated Confidence today. If this conversation sparked something within you, please don't keep that transformation to yourself. 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